Automatic transmission with double clutch . . .

People are lazy, people are spoiled, people want it both ways. No I'm not any better, but not too much that I blame them. In addition, I have a problem with my back, so I decided that the time had come for my first Automatic. however, I was not ready to give up performance, a wave is not it, even to the pump twice a day, as long as you have preferred the smell of petrol fumes. In response to this, seemingly impossible combination requires in my mind appeared Getrag Powershift robotized transmission with double clutch. Spustio se sa neba na zlatni pijedestal obasjan božanskom svetlošću uz dramatičnu muziku i konfete.

The idea behind the likes of him solutions (DSG, DCT) itself is ingenious. Many argue that the dual clutch transmission merged the best of two worlds: manual and automatic transmission, but the truth is that it is much more than their mere combining. It offers better performance, better economy and a better driving experience of both classical approaches. Unfortunately, it comes with a price, and this increased complexity. This is the price that makes sense to pay when it comes to High performance vehicles, or in the case of an ordinary family car, odnos uloženog i dobijenog postaje diskutabilan.

In theory, This construction presents two independent manual transmission with three speeds, related system with two parallel plate set, each with its own input shaft and hydraulic actuators that control the computer-mechanical component known as mechatronics. One clutch is responsible for the odd, and one for the even gears which virtually achieved that the car is always in two speeds at once. Mechatronic predicts that the next gear and shifted voters in the required position. At the time of the alteration speed single clutch begins to be discharged and slip allowing another to take over and adjust the engine speed. This all happens in a split second, without loss of torque that provides a great feeling of acceleration and excellent fuel economy. sounds complicated? Do not worry, daleko je komplikovanije nego što mislite.

Although sophisticated, this technology is generalized for fifteen years, since the VW Group in a bid ranked first serial transmission of this type, better known by its commercial name DSG (Direct Shift Gearbox), based on the principles set by the Porsche way back 80s. Unfortunately, although extremely pleasant to drive, DSG has proven to be quite unreliable, especially in the embodiment with the 7 speed and dry clutch (pre-produced 2009. years). The culprit was most often mechatronics, and inadequate or oil in the gearbox. Similarly, Ford has passed a rough ride with his Getrag 6DCT250 transmission with dry clutches that were built in the Fiesta and Focus petrol and that they brought debacle, huge lawsuits and catastrophic costs SAD and Australia. cause? Excessive amounts of heat in the middle of friction that damaged the electronics, but the bad seals that have sprouted over oil (not more so dry) kvačila.

Knowing all this, I decided for robust Powershift 6DCT450 model with wet clutches, which is for a period of 2009. until today, embodied in various models of Ford brand (Focus, C-Max, Mondeo, S-Max, Galaxy), Volvo (V40, S60, V60, XC60), Mitsubishi (Lancer, ASX, Outlander), Peugeot (4008), Citroen (C-Crosser) i Dodge (Journey). anyway, Getrag je svoja rešenja sa duplim kvačilom proturio sve do automobila kao što su BMW M3, Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X i Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG. For me quite sufficient recommendation. Ma i više od toga.

Little quirks with concrete transmission is that it comes with regular maintenance interval of 60,000 km, which ensures that the oil is not buried with tiny particles of friction material with lamella. Poštujte interval, Change the oil and filter external transmission at every 45,000 km for the safety and enjoy paradise on earth. Ne poštujte ga i suočite se sa paklom zvanim “Transmission limited function“. Some Luigi who was, more than obvious, before I drove my latest pet is not respected interval. Damn Louis, fuck off!

After a thorough check of cars on auto pay and quite a long test drive I opted for one of the best preserved polovnjaka with this transmission, which I had the opportunity to see. impeccable engine, almost untouched interior and all four tires old 3 month were supposed to give me light comes on to alert, especially when you take into account the more than reasonable price. however, I could not find a flaw and a pact with the devil is signed. Just in case, cautious as I am, I scheduled an appointment at a designated service so I did everything that should, including a full-service transmission. At the service is confirmed rights mileage of 154,000 kilometers and found no fault on the engine, gearbox, nor any other system. As a real winner I drove through the gate service in the sunset, ne sluteći kakvo me samo kompletno pomračenje očekuje već narednog dana.

The first thing I felt was something like clutch slippage. It occurred sometimes, the following fifteen minutes When starting, in the form of the jump of the idle and jerking forward immediately thereafter. Soon the problem of frequent and also appeared in the movement, with rough gear changes when accelerating, or the braking. Nakon dva dana se pojavila poruka “Transmission limited function” i automobil se jedva dovukao nazad u ovlašćeni servis. There I was greeted with surprise by saying that they only changed the oil and filter, and that this has absolutely nothing to do with them. At my insistence that included elevated tone, spominjanje nadređenih i ovog portala pristali su da prime automobil preko reda i ispitaju šta se dešava.

After two days of purest agony arrived conscience of PR-Sales Service: Transmission is broken and they are not able to fix it, but can not replace it with a new. Of course, uz simboličnu cenu koja iznosi 4.800… 4.800 which, I asked as I looked for his father's hunting shotgun. The man on the other side to do is stay calm and advised me to seek the help of a specialist for automatic transmissions, tvrdeći i dalje da problem nema veze sa radovima izvedenim kod njih.

Ruku na srce, kasnije se ispostavilo da je bio u pravu, ali u tom trenutku sam razmišljao da se provezem, sve tako pokvarenim autom, kroz recepciju servisa uzduž i popreko. Niko bre više ne pokušava da popravi kvar, samo ako može nešto da se skine i montira novo, par šrafova, malo mašinske masti i vratiš plastičnu oplatu. Pa tako i ja mogu da otvorim ovlašćeni servis.

Dok sam razmišljao o tome kako će se žena konačno razvesti od mene i to sa razlogom, because this is definitely a drop in a full glass, the Internet I was looking for experience of other drivers and potential service that could help me solve the problem without having to sell children into white slavery. I dialed, agreed dates and dragged somehow to small, unsightly service across town, where the car left the next 16 (and sixteen letters) dana.

This time I used to revel in fantasies about how it pouring gasoline and throw zippo lighter in slow-motion mood, then to the hull-provides complaining to the authorized service pop-up at the last minute, etc.. From thought I was 16. days startled master who solemnly announced that the car was finished and that the problem is solved in a mere 1.500 euros, three times less than the price of a new gearbox. While we alternated feelings of joy for the correct car and worry about who to sell kidney, trčao sam da saznam šta je bio problem i šta je zapravo sve zamenjeno.

Double clutch assembly overhauls, hydro-service block, input speed sensor replaced, new oil and filter were just some of the items on the invoice, with one year warranty. The slats were in the end, springs acting floating momentum were bankrupt, and the plastic around them broken. Sensors and solenoids were buried in dirt by Luigi so devoted to collecting from 2011. when the car was purchased new. Although a large impact on the budget, all that I was providing a great feeling of security for the future, posebno jer sam znao da će od tog trenutka taj menjač videti samo redovno i kvalitetno održavanje.

Strpao sam gospođu u kola i odvezao se na Žabljak, da se iskupim – naravno. Prešli smo oko 800 kilometara najčistijeg uživanja, neprimetnih promena brzina i neverovatno niske potrošnje. Na otvorenom putu je ovaj menjač svoj na svome, uz intuitivne promene stepena prenosa koje vozač skoro pa može kontrolisati pažljivim radom na papučici gasa. also, kompjuter uzima u obzir i nagib puta, što na nizbrdicama omogućava kočenje motorom, dok se na samu naznaku uzbrdice auto prešalta u nižu brzinu, gotovo neprimetno.

Sve to predivno iskustvo, samo da bi me po povratku u Beograd ponovo oblio hladan znoj. “Transmission limited function” mi se ponovo cerio sa komandne table, dok su mi jedino neparne brzine bile dostupne. Problem se rešavao gašenjem motora, samo da bi se posle nekoliko minuta opet pojavio. S obzirom da nisam planirao da gasim i palim motor na svaka dva kilometra, kontaktirao sam servis automatskih menjača i, na neizmernu radost majstora, pozvao se na garanciju.

Iako bez dodatnih troškova i šokova, ipak me je čekalo još 15 dana na dizalici, novi softver za koji se licenca čekala iz Getraga, but the knowledge that the parameters of the transmission were maliciously thwarted as the original problem with the clutch and sensors would notice. This is obviously all experienced did our pal Luigi back in Italy to the car easier to sell and that's explanations why I did not notice a problem during a test drive, kao i zašto se problem pojavio odmah nakon zamene ulja i promene viskoziteta istog.

That there would not be the end, but also to what you learned more from my mistakes, od tada se s vremena na vreme pojavljuju nešto grublje promene stepena prenosa, pogotovo prilikom kretanja, between 1. i 2., as well as 2. i 3. speed. Ni jedna lampica ne gori, ali dijagnostika pokazuje upozorenje “Adaptive Learning not completed“, što ipak mnogo bolje zvuči od one jezive greške od ranije. Savet mog majstora je da se adaptivno učenje, koje je neophodno obaviti svaki put nakon zamene komponenti menjača, odradi u ovlašćenom servisu preko originalne kompjuterske dijagnostike. however, za sada se to suviše retko dešava da bih ih ponovo udostojio svoje posete, a i nešto sam slab s vremenom, radim par poslova odjednom da pokrijem neke troškove što sam imao.

Sve u svemu, nikada mi osećanja nisu bila toliko podeljena kao kada je u pitanju Getrag Powershift 6DCT450. Kada radi, radi bolje nego što sam ikada zamišljao da bi jedan takav sklop to mogao. Promene brzina su momentalne, ubrzanje je kontinualno, a potrošnja niska čak i kada vozim nadahnuto. Ali kada ne radi… Onda je skupo, komplikovano i, ono možda najgore, čak i opasno. Ako želite besplatan savet (vama je besplatan, mene je do sada koštao 1.500 euros): Kupite automobil sa ovim menjačem samo ako imate uvid u originalnu servisnu knjižicu i ukoliko je u njoj nedvosmisleno izlistan svaki redovni servis menjača na 45 do 60 hiljada kilometara. Ako se odlučite ja vam držim palčeve, a Boga mi – drž’te i vi meni.

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